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's one thing. but we're not going to go after seeing the president win this election, we won the white house, turn right around and undermine the people who helped put us there. >> you know, it is interesting. the older voters did vote republican and medicare was out there. i mean, paul ryan budget was there. and the older voters went for governor romney. >> remember,, he won with fewer voters. the republican performance was better than it was four years ago. the reality is, nobody can look at this budget and think that if you don't reform entitlements you can balance it. >> but it's a matter of where do you balance it? do you balance it on the backs on the people who can least afford it? >> but to get a deal, we have a divided government. the president won. we can argue about whether it's a mandate. there will have to be compromise. $16 trillion debt. trillion a year deficit. you're not going to solve all that with tax increases and cutting discretionary programs. we have to fix the intitlement programs. we can talk about how we do it. >> you have to be specific, steve. because when y
the fiscal cliff. right after the election wall street dropped 5% when everybody suddenly focused on the fiscal cliff and realized that this was a problem. but since then it's kind of bumped along at this sort of level. i don't think wall street is at all sanguine about the idea that if we went over the fiscal cliff, life would go on as we know it and everything would be fine. >> one of the things that was really interesting to me to bear out that point is ken conrad yesterday who's been so down, i mean, he's leaving the senate. he's done this for seven years. they can't produce deals. and yesterday when i interviewed him, joe, he said i think we're going to make this. i think the boehner offer had significant indicators that something here is going on, and they're going to come together. >> also, kent conrad, a guy -- i've loved him for a long time, deficit hawk. they haven't allowed him to put a budget out for years. he's growing frustrated. i'm sure he's going to be glad to leave. but i was surprised by that as well. you see also, sam stein, republicans are now starting to real
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